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Guest Post: A Primer On Winning With Money

Mike Jones has been one of my best friends since we were in High School. We don’t see eye to eye on everything, and certain areas of money management fall under that. However, he’s been winning with money longer than most people our age. I think he’s got great ideas about helping young people do the same. This is the first in a three part series from Mike, so make sure you stay tuned over the next three Tuesdays. You can follow Mike on twitter, or get a hold of him through e-mail Michael.jones@georgetownmtg.com.

Getting Started

Hello everyone!  First, let me set your expectations by stating that I am NOT a writer. That’s not to say that I don’t have my moments of writing genius, but I don’t have a particular voice and I’m not going to win any awards. Now that you won’t be disappointed, let’s jump into a discussion about being young and managing your finances.

I won’t call myself an expert in managing finances, but I’ve been balancing a checkbook and investing since I was 15. From an early age, I was fascinated with building wealth and making sure that I had plenty of money.  For me, money is a way to keep score in life – particularly in business. Now, that clearly conflicts with several messages in the Bible, such as

“No one can serve two masters.  Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other.  You cannot serve both God and Money.” (Matthew 6:24)

and

“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.  But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.  For where you treasure is, there you heart will be also.” (Matthew 6:19-21).

It’s been difficult for me to balance over the years, but I think that I’m starting to get the hang of it.

In addition to managing my finances as a hobby, I am a Certified Public Accountant, CPA, and a licensed residential mortgage loan originator. Those two titles mean that I deal with personal finances on a daily basis and I’ve seen both the good and bad side.

You’ve probably heard this before, but God has placed you as a steward over the finances that he has provided to you. As such, it is your responsibility to make sure that you handle his gift wisely. Over the next few weeks we are going to look at a few key areas of finances: the basics of financial management, debt and and taxes, and some practical steps for young people to take with their money.

So You Graduated And Got A Job

Managing your finances for the first time out of college can be a scary and exciting prospect. If you were able to snag a job right after graduating, congratulations! You are now likely receiving more money than all of your pre-college graduation years combined. And, if you’re like most young people, you have a lot of pent up spending to take care of.

One of the first, and possibly the worst, purchases is a vehicle. A vehicle is not a wise choice for several reasons, but the most important is that it is a depreciating asset. The moment that you drive a car off the lot and sign the papers, it immediately loses several thousand dollars in value.

If you absolutely must purchase a car after graduating, get a used, but reliable vehicle that will take care of you for roughly 5 years. After 5 years, you will likely be getting married and starting a family which means that your vehicle choice may need to change.  If you can keep the vehicle longer, more power to you.

Most college graduates are also dealing with student loans. Luckily, most student loans are deferred for at least 6 months, which means that you get a bit of a breather once you start out. But, it is important for you to consider those payments in your budget up front. By setting this money aside, hopefully into savings or paying down other debt, you will already account for this money and it will not be a shock when you start making the payments a few months down the road.

Unless absolutely necessary, don’t opt to have the “graduated” payment plan. This payment plan allows for your student loan payments to be less initially, but the monthly payments increase substantially over time to make up for lost ground. I would not recommend this because you are only robbing Peter to pay Paul and who knows what your financial needs will be down the road. Be disciplined and pay the standard amount each month, if not more.

Don’t Get Caught Without A Cushion

An absolute necessity is creating a cushion of savings. Most financial experts will agree that you need at least 6 months of savings in order to be financially secure. This means that you have enough saved in the bank that you could cover your rent or mortgage, your student loans, car payment, and pay your monthly grocery and utility bills in the event that you lost your job or became unable to work. The more that you aggressively save up front, the less you have to worry over time.

Let’s briefly discuss medical/health insurance. Only you know your preferences and prior medical history, but you could be making a life altering decision depending on the type of coverage that you choose.  If you do not obtain enough coverage, a disease or accident could literally ruin your financial future. On the flip side, if you’re paying too much each month, you could be missing on opportunities to save and invest.

There are many individuals that are independent of the big agencies like Blue Cross Blue Shield, etc. These individuals have access to a number of carriers and will let you shop for the best policy. Another coverage to consider is accident or critical illness coverage like Aflac. Insurance coverage like this will provide you with additional financial security if you hurt yourself or you are diagnosed with cancer; the monthly payments are usually fairly cheap and can save you a substantial amount of money in the long run.

A Final Word

No discussion on Christian budgeting would be complete without covering tithing. This is one area that I have always struggled with. This is a shame, because I know that God provides me with the success that I do experience and He will bless me (non-financially) by giving with a joyful heart. When budgeting, especially for the first time, be sure to factor your 10% (or more) into your budget up front. This will allow you financial freedom by not having to find a place down the road for giving – it will already be established.

That pretty much covered the basics. As a summary, creating a manageable and effective budget will not only allow you to be successful, but it will give you peace of mind.

Grace & Peace,

Stippick

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Posted by on July 23, 2013 in Guest Post

 

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Guest Post: Family Time

Last week Shanna shared about the idol of the “perfect family“. This week she wraps up her guest posts about family talking about managing time as a family in the busy, busy world we live in. I hope you’ve enjoyed reading Shanna’s thoughts! For more great thoughts on parenting (and to follow the lives of the Downs Crew, you can follow Shanna on twitter.

As the parents of five children, most people assume that we are super busy. I will say that during the summer months we are busier than usual but for the most part we have never been the family that had something every night of the week. Here are a just a few ways that we kept our extracurricular activities in check as we added children every other year for seven years to our crazy crew.

Not Your “Normal” Birthday

We decided with baby #3, our only son Micah, that we would no longer have a birthday party every year where everything seemed like a big blur when it was over. Nope. We would celebrate at home with some cupcakes, a roaring rendition of the “Happy Birthday” from their siblings (complete with “cha cha cha”) and homemade cards (now that they can drive, they can go buy their sibling one if they would like).  We have a tradition of making a video where we sit each child down and interview them on their birthday and ask them the same fun questions each year.

It was never a big deal or anything to fuss about that the yearly, over the top birthday’s ceased. We just started the brain washing process early that you only invite friends to have a birthday party every other year beginning when you are 1 and when you turn 8 you don’t have a big party again until you are 12 and then once again when you are 16 years old.  Somewhere in there, I try to throw in a surprise party for them, mainly because I always wanted one growing up so I figure I get five of them this way.

Extra Effort For Extra Curriculars

We also decided after we added Micah to our family that we would not start any child in extracurricular activities until our children were in elementary school. At that time, they could choose ONE extracurricular activity to participate in and they would need to finish the season before they could be done with that choice and choose something else.

We did alter our decision a bit with that sweet little boy of ours and let him play Upward Basketball when he was 4 and man, he was a baller even way back then! That was also the year that I realized that I would need to go on anxiety medication to continue to attend his games. One parent refused to believe he was 4 years old and was asking to see his birth certificate! That’s another post all by itself.

As far as guidelines on what they were allowed to choose, it was really up to them. We would introduce the activity and tell or show them something about it then lay their options out for them. We would then pray with them together about it and encouraged them to pray on their own about their decision. Another wise mom shared this idea with me to encourage them to pray about all their decisions and I adopted it.

Over the years one or more of the Downs’ children have participated in softball, baseball, piano, voice lessons, soccer, lacrosse, flag football, Pop Warner football, ballet, hip hop, gymnastics, Brownies, volleyball and swim team (which about killed me, as I am not an early bird mommy). When they are in 7th grade, they can participate in one school activity and one out of school activity. So far, it has worked very well to keep our weekly and weekend schedule manageable.

When They Don’t “Make The Team”

I remember well when one of my daughters tried out for a team and couldn’t open her letter that would tell her if she made the team until she was off of school property. I had prepared her and myself I thought for what was in the envelope, however, the tears came (from us both) as we read the news that she had not made the team.

Yes, it was a hard lesson however, if I am going to say that I believe everything in the Bible to be true then I must put my faith in action. When I tell my daughter that God has a plan and that may not include her making the volleyball team or if that we believe that HE is in control of every detail in our life then when something doesn’t turn out the way we want it to we have to accept it and move on. That might include practicing more in order to make next year’s team if that is your goal; it may also include looking into some other things you are interested in and exploring those options.

Have A Plan

David and I recognized early on as we added to our family that if we didn’t make some guidelines about how our family would spend and commit our time then it would quickly get away from us. We knew that it was important for us to spend time with our children teaching them things about the Lord and just having time to hang out….with NO real plans, just being with each other. With that as a parenting goal, we were able to establish what the plan would be for spending time on extracurricular things as a family.

In Tim Kimmel’s book, Little House on the Freeway, he says, “Everyday life must always be lived against the backdrop of eternity.”  What a great reminder!

Recommended reading:  “Little House on the Freeway:  Help for the Hurried Home” by Tim Kimmel, “Margin: Restoring Emotional, Physical, Financial, & Time Reserves to Overloaded Lives” by Richard Swenson and “The 3 Big Questions for a Frantic Family” by Patrick Lencioni.

Do you find your family fighting for time? What do you do?

 
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Posted by on June 25, 2013 in Guest Post

 

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Guest Post: The Family Idol

Shanna Downs is a mother of five youth ministry volunteer (because there’s not a word that really describes all that she does) from First Baptist Church in Georgetown. I’ve been taking mental parenting notes from Shanna and her husband David for year and hope I can remember even a fraction of it when the time comes. I’ve had the pleasure of ministering to and with all of their kids and loved every minute of it. She’ll be the first to tell you that she’s not a perfect parent (and that in fact there’s no such thing), but she agreed to talk with you here over the next two weeks about parenting. Enjoy!

The Perfect Family

7th heaven

7th Heaven was a much loved show at our house. Most of us have watched every episode of every season (when I say “most” I mean me and my youngest, Kylee, but anywhoo) and cried and laughed with the Camden’s as they guided their 7 children through some pretty crazy situations.

One night after watching a few episodes, David, my husband, made an observation. He noted that it seemed in most episodes (especially the “early years” when they “JUST had FIVE” children!) the Camden Fab 5 all faced the same struggle or temptation on the SAME episode…every one of them…Happy, the dog, was even included sometimes!

David commented how he was so grateful that although at times with five kids of our own very close together in age it did SEEM like we were in crisis mode with all of them, in reality usually it was just two kids at the most that were going through something and the other three were just being dramatic. Sigh…

However, my desire to raise the picture perfect Camdenesque family quickly twisted into a sin and my family became an idol for me. We are learning so much about that in a Jr. High girls bible study I am leading called, “Lies Young Women Believe.”  I am so thankful for tools like this book so young girls can learn to recognize early on how Satan so often can take a wonderful thing and twist it as a lie and trap we fall into.

No Such Thing As The Perfect Family

My pursuit to raise children, who would follow Christ, quickly became a legalistic pursuit of perfection…for myself and for my children. My pride, self-righteousness and fear of failure led me to adopting a style of parenting that offered grace only when I was feeling grace in my own life. In my 20’s when I was a young mama, I can honestly say that was not very often. I am so thankful that God used my children and parenting to open my eyes to discover the overwhelming grace only found in Christ.

My wise hubby reminds me on days that I still get in a tizzy over my children’s mess-ups that we can’t take credit for our children’s successes or their failures. In an effort to maintain complete authenticity and be totally open with my parenting struggles, let me tell you, friend…this is a hard pill (quote) for me to swallow.  I mean how can it be that no matter how hard I TRY that my children may or may not make wise choices and follow Christ?  What I believe God is teaching me is that the mature believer is one who has learned to apply God’s grace during times of failure and distress in our lives and our children’s lives. God’s grace is more than adequate to overcome their sin….MY SIN at that.

In the past, I was convinced that all of my plans and formulas to be an exemplary Christian parent would guarantee that my children would “turn out right.”  But again, I am beginning to see that when you take credit for your children’s successes and failures you set yourself up for disappointment when they fail to meet your expectations. I cannot control (oh, that is so hard to type!) their journey to adulthood. I can only pray and guide them by being obedient to God’s word when parenting them, and many times I fall back on the Word of Shanna and what I think instead of the Word of God and what Christ says.

Something that God has been so faithful to provide in our family’s life is other parents who were a few steps ahead of us in their parenting journey, and were able to share what they did when facing a hiccup or throw up (it feels like that sometimes) with your sweet little angel. He has also provided wonderful young adults who know the value of investing in children and teenagers and who eagerly and purposefully spend time with them giving them biblical counsel and many times saying the same things we have said to them as their parents.

[If you want to find out more about how to “widen your circle” of influence for your family, I would encourage you to read, Parenting Beyond Your Capacity by Reggie Joiner and Carey Nieuwhof.]

Raising Children With Others and Christ

It’s true…I am not raising great children who follow Christ on my own. Ugh, when I look at my own pride it makes me sick. A GOD provided extended family of teachers, mentors, small group leaders, minister’s, friend’s and the list goes on and on are investing and pouring into their lives. Thank you, Jesus!

As I reflected on how I fell into Satan’s trap of setting my family up as an idol in my life, I realized that my insecurity drove me to achieving and attaining what I believed others would see as success in my life.  When they succeeded in something, I would get another dose of “everything is going to be okay” and feel good about myself but it didn’t last long. I was addicted to approval and people pleasing like an adict to heroin. Because my identity was not found in Christ, I was parenting in such a way that at times I sacrificed the relationship that I valued so deeply with them for the idol of my family.

1 Corinthians 3:3-9 says:

So, aren’t you following the ways of the world? Aren’t you acting like ordinary human beings? One of you says, “I follow Paul.” Another says, “I follow Apollos.” Aren’t you acting like ordinary human beings? After all, what is Apollos? And what is Paul? We are only people who serve. We helped you to believe. The Lord has given each of us our own work to do. I planted the seed. Apollos watered it. But God made it grow. So the one who plants is not important. The one who waters is not important. It is God who makes things grow. He is the One who is important. The one who plants and the one who waters have the same purpose. The Lord will give each of us a reward for our work.  We work together with God. You are like God’s field. You are like his building.

It is God who makes things grow; I love that! The more I allow Christ to be in control of every area of my life, the more I find myself really believing God’s truth that I am not responsible for my children’s successes or failures. I can start to embrace that if I am obedient to Christ and follow HIS lead, then I can leave the results with Him. God wants to tell His story through their successes and failures for HIS glory….NOT mine.

Recommended reading:  “Grace Based Parenting” and “Raising Kid’s for True Greatness” by Tim Kimmel, “Shepherding a Child’s Heart” and “Instructing a Child’s Heart” by Paul Tripp, “Parenting Beyond Your Capacity” by Reggie Joiner and Carey Nieuwhof.

What questions do you have for Shanna?

Grace & Peace,

Stippick

 
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Posted by on June 18, 2013 in Guest Post

 

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Guest Post: Steps Toward Loving The World And Everyone In It

This is this conclusion to a guest post series by Jacob Davis. Jacob is a former roommate of mine. Jacob is, in my life, regularly the nonviolent voice of reason that I sometimes wish I regularly was. He not only reads an writes on the topic, but does his best to live it day in and day out. I hope you’ll enjoy and discuss his thoughts on nonviolence below. He’s also a pretty killer barista. You can follow him on twitter and read his new blog.

 

Nonviolence is an interesting thing to practice in America. In fact, there seems to be a misconception with the term “nonviolence.” Many people seem to take pacifism as something more akin to “passive-ism,” where those who disagree with violence just don’t take any form of a stand at all. In reality, the practice of nonviolence, or “peacemaking”, is not only a denial of violence and the powers that use violence; it is also an affirmation of the things which bring love and reconciliation to the world. While figuring out how to be a peacemaker in your own specific neighborhood and context may be something that I can’t speak into with such limited information on my end, here are some basic starting points that anyone can use to pursue the practice of nonviolence.

True Christian peacemaking always has a center in contemplation and prayer. You can contemplate the life, crucifixion, and resurrection of our Lord, our poverty and unworthiness before His love, and His acceptance of us regardless. It’s also helpful to think on loving our neighbor, cultivating the fruit of the Spirit, or what it means to honor others above yourself. It is then time to pray for these mysteries to work themselves out through the Holy Spirit. Also, try the extremely difficult exercise of praying for your enemies. These timeless practices are not just something that we Christians should do at the beginning of our walk in peace. Rather it is helpful, as a daily meditation, to constantly think on the peacemaking of our Lord and to pray it into our lives while we also pray for our enemies.

It is also essential for peacemakers to prepare a readiness to forgive the ones who do them wrong. A few years ago, an armed man went into a school in an Amish community and killed five young girls before turning his gun on himself. America was shocked by the sudden act of violence, but what added to everyone’s shock was the response of the Amish. Within hours, leaders from the community arrived at the house of the killer’s wife and children, as well at his parents’ house, offering words of grace and forgiveness. They put money together to help support the man’s family, now that he was no longer around to provide. The reason that this response was so quickly coordinated was because the Amish were steeped in the ways of nonviolent reconciliation, which is centered in forgiveness. We would do well as Christians to follow them and be prepared to forgive others as Christ forgave us.

A great way to gain insight as to what it means to practice nonviolence is to get involved in peacemaking activities in your community. You can usually learn from people who have more experience in living out a peaceful life in your local setting. There are many things to do, whether it is getting involved with local legislature, writing letters to congress, marching in peace pilgrimages, or getting involved in local nonprofit organizations. I actually just found out about a group of prominent community members who all advocate nonviolent solutions in our community and hold events to promote awareness. And even if the group you work with isn’t explicitly dedicated to nonviolence, it can still be a chance for you to practice peacemaking.

Oftentimes the hardest part of practical nonviolence is starting. There are so many things that you can do, and it can seem overwhelming. I cannot stress how important it is to know that each one of us is limited. We cannot do everything, nor are we asked to do so. Peacemaking is not often enacted in sweeping reform or great strides. It may at times seem the opposite, that the only way to bring others into the peaceful way of Christ is to do something great. But as Mother Theresa once said in a different context:

“Not all of us can do great things. But we can do small things with great love.”1

Notes:

  1. As quoted in Mother Teresa : Come Be My Light (2007) by Brian Kolodiejchuk
 
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Posted by on June 11, 2013 in Guest Post

 

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Guest Post: The Normative Nonviolence

Jacob Davis is a former roommate of mine. I asked him to kick-off the new guest post part of this site by talking this week and next week about nonviolence. Jacob is, in my life, regularly the nonviolent voice of reason that I sometimes wish I regularly was. He not only reads an writes on the topic, but does his best to live it day in and day out. I hope you’ll enjoy and discuss his thoughts on nonviolence below. He’s also a pretty killer barista. You can follow him on twitter and read his new blog.

I was once called a heretic at the age of twenty-one. The word was hurled at me in a discussion with an old mentor about Christian nonviolence. Since then, I’ve had many similar (though not quite as volatile) discussions with comparable responses. The idea of active nonresistance is often, at best, disregarded as being an unrealistic ideal in this world, not really what Jesus has asked of us. In a worst case scenario, like the one mentioned above, it is seen as heretical. However, when we ignore or resist the practice of nonviolence, we are in fact creating a heresy by keeping a central piece of what it means to follow Jesus from penetrating and pervading throughout our lives.

Many of the people that I have spoken to seem to think that there are no actual commands for a nonviolent lifestyle to be normative of the Christian life. Yet the New Testament is chock-full of verses and stories that espouse nonviolence as the norm,1 and nowhere is this idea more fully formed than in the words and actions of Jesus. His actual explicit commands for this are found in the often-paralleled Sermon on the Mount in Matthew and the Sermon in the Valley in Luke.

“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also… You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be children of your Father in heaven.”-Matthew 5:38-39, 43-45a

“But I say to you that listen, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also; and from anyone who takes away your coat do not withhold even your shirt. Give to everyone who begs from you; and if anyone takes away your goods, do not ask for them again. Do to others as you would have them do to you.” –Luke 6:27-31

Both passages lay out a simple set of practices that are underlined by the basic command, “Love your enemies.” These practices are all responses to a wrongdoing. What is so difficult about them is that they leave no room for retaliation, but require a generous reaction. The most common argument against these verses usually sounds something like, “You’re being legalistic with what the Lord said. It’s impossible! How can Jesus seriously expect us to interact in such a way with people who take advantage of us and wish us harm2?”

The answer lies in Jesus’ call to the disciples in Matthew 16:24, Mark 8:34, and Luke 9:23. Each one essentially reads, “If anyone wants to be my disciple, let him/her pick up his/her cross and follow me.” This is by no means an easy answer, but the issue of whether or not we should obey the command is not usually contested. What does bristle the neck-hair of many biblical scholars is what it means for a person to “bear his/her cross.” One may read this call many times and its significance could still be missed. In our society, the cross to bear is usually seen as anything negative that we should patiently endure, such as an illness, the trials a friend is struggling through, or the middle finger flipped by a stranger in traffic. All of these things should be patiently endured, but when we define the cross as these things, we gloss over the more radical nature of our Savior and our calling.

Jesus’ cross was a political punishment. He was not crucified because Jewish and Roman authorities thought that they needed to kill Him to bring about the salvation of mankind, but He was killed because He bore witness to a Kingdom of God which was a tangible threat to their power. As John Howard Yoder says, “The cross of Calvary was not a difficult family situation, not a frustration of visions of personal fulfillment, a crushing debt, or a nagging in-law; it was the political, legally-to-be-expected result of a moral clash with the powers ruling [Jesus’] society.”3 In being called to bear witness to the arrival of the Kingdom of God, and to pick up their cross and follow, Christ’s disciples are expected to bear this very same backlash from others, and in the same way as Jesus.

While accepting the persecutions of the authorities may be good and fine, it is rare that Christians in the United States are thusly attacked. How does nonviolence apply to us when we don’t really have assailants? Is active nonresistance an imperative to all believers, even if we aren’t at odds with the political rulers of our land? When the implications of who we are in Christ and what His Kingdom looks like become clear, the answer is still a resounding yes.

The author of 1 Peter states plainly that those who have believed in Christ “are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s own people…”(2:9) We are subjects in God’s Kingdom, with Jesus as our King. When standing before Pilate before His crucifixion, Jesus states something about the nature of His Kingdom and Its people in such a simple manner that it is difficult to find any excuse to ignore it:

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my kingdom is not from here.” –John 18:36

Did you catch that? I hope so, which is why I typed it in italics and bold.

The kingdoms of this world are full of fighting and violence to protect the ideas and people that it deems important, but the Kingdom of God is not from this world. This Holy Place is a realm in which the meek inherit the earth, and the peacemakers are called the children of God. Thus Christians are called to bear witness to the very nature of such a kingdom, for if such a place is under the Lordship of the Creator of the cosmos, then it follows that nonviolence, insofar as it means working for peace and loving our enemies, is not some random rule selected to make us better people, nor is it an unbearable law which burdens us; rather it is a truth about what Yoder calls “the grain of the universe.” It is an outworking of a loving God in and through people He was willing to die for. Those recipients- I am talking about US- are called to spread that love both to our friends and our enemies. And when we are called to love our enemies, we must inevitably ask what it means to love. For this, we look again to Christ:

We know love by this, that He laid down His life for us- and we ought to lay down our lives for one another. -1 John 3:16

Notes:

  1. In the sayings of Jesus: Matthew 26:53 (rejection of violent alternative), Luke 6:27-36 (commandment), Luke 26:52, John 18:11, Luke 9:51-56 (as a warning),  essentially anything related to the cross like Luke 9:23-24, Luke 23:34 and the admission of His innocence in 23:47, His willingness to freely give His life both for His sheep and to those who want it in John 10:11-18 is the center of enemy love and nonviolent nonresistance. For NT writers Romans 5:8, Romans 12:14-21, Romans 15:3, reading of Paul’s sufferings in 2 Corinthians 11:23-33, the fruit of the Spirit in Galatians 5:22, Ephesians 3:10, 1 Peter 3:9. All of these essentially leave no room for causing harm to others.
  2. It is interesting and I am sure intentional that both commands for enemy love in Matthew 5:43 and Luke 6:27-31 are immediately followed with the imperative to imitate the Father: “Be perfect, just as your heavenly Father is perfect,” and “Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.”
  3. John Howard Yoder, The Politics of Jesus (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1994) pp. 129. I am greatly indebted to Yoder’s entire work, especially Chapter 7, The Disciple of Christ and the Way of Jesus, from which this quote is pulled.

Do you agree, or disagree? Why? Tell us in the comments below.

Grace & Peace,

Stippick

 
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Posted by on June 4, 2013 in Guest Post

 

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